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	<title>Comments on: Random Shutdown Syndrome</title>
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	<description>does your Macbook shutdown randomly - mine does</description>
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		<title>By: Auto Parts Used Trucks Modified Cars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Auto Parts Used Trucks Modified Cars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 05:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Auto Parts Used Trucks Modified Cars...&lt;/strong&gt;

I didn&#039;t agree with you first, but last paragraph makes sense for me...</description>
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<p>I didn&#8217;t agree with you first, but last paragraph makes sense for me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
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		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 15:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had the same problem - with 2 MacBooks. Both are in Apple&#039;s bad serial number range recently given to dealers. 

I also thought it was the 2 gigs of memory I installed. When I put back the original memory the machine ran fine - for a while. Actually, everytime I took memory in and out the machine ran fine for a while. I guess I was just jogging the motherboard enough to make it work for a while.

Finally the video card went bad and I couldn&#039;t even use an external monitor. I had to wait 10 days for a new motherboard to come in. 

FYI: Having more memory can mean more heat as the processor can do more work. More heat causes motherboards to fail more. Our company, Reflecture, did some research into this a few years ago (for none other than Apple) and it showed that low memory meant more HD failures and high memory meant a bit more motherboard failures. 

I got the machine back with a new motherboard and it worked fine for one week. Now it is shutting down every 3 or 4 minutes. 

So back to Apple it goes. When Apple decided to go Intel I didn&#039;t think they would adopt PC quality as well.

William</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had the same problem &#8211; with 2 MacBooks. Both are in Apple&#8217;s bad serial number range recently given to dealers. </p>
<p>I also thought it was the 2 gigs of memory I installed. When I put back the original memory the machine ran fine &#8211; for a while. Actually, everytime I took memory in and out the machine ran fine for a while. I guess I was just jogging the motherboard enough to make it work for a while.</p>
<p>Finally the video card went bad and I couldn&#8217;t even use an external monitor. I had to wait 10 days for a new motherboard to come in. </p>
<p>FYI: Having more memory can mean more heat as the processor can do more work. More heat causes motherboards to fail more. Our company, Reflecture, did some research into this a few years ago (for none other than Apple) and it showed that low memory meant more HD failures and high memory meant a bit more motherboard failures. </p>
<p>I got the machine back with a new motherboard and it worked fine for one week. Now it is shutting down every 3 or 4 minutes. </p>
<p>So back to Apple it goes. When Apple decided to go Intel I didn&#8217;t think they would adopt PC quality as well.</p>
<p>William</p>
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		<title>By: Vidar S. Ramdal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vidar S. Ramdal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 21:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The symptoms youâ??re describing are exactly the same Iâ??ve seen.

I called Apple Support, and the guy I spoke with ed me through a procedure of resetting the Power Management unit - by shutting down the mac, removing the power cord and battery, and then press and hold the power button for 5 seconds. This procedure seemed to cure the problem for a few days, but I still see it from time to time. 

The support representative also suggested there could be something wrong with the battery, and offered to send me a replacement. However, Iâ??ve also observed the problem even with the battery removed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The symptoms youâ??re describing are exactly the same Iâ??ve seen.</p>
<p>I called Apple Support, and the guy I spoke with ed me through a procedure of resetting the Power Management unit &#8211; by shutting down the mac, removing the power cord and battery, and then press and hold the power button for 5 seconds. This procedure seemed to cure the problem for a few days, but I still see it from time to time. </p>
<p>The support representative also suggested there could be something wrong with the battery, and offered to send me a replacement. However, Iâ??ve also observed the problem even with the battery removed.</p>
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		<title>By: mole</title>
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		<dc:creator>mole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 20:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, 

I got my Macbook (the slowest one) in May. No problems until last weekend: I resumed the Macbook from sleep and after a few seconds the screen went black. It took me a while to figure out that the power had gone off completely. So I restarted the machine, logged in and same thing happened almost immediately. This was repeated about 4-5 times within ten minutes until I started investigating the problem. I was not aware that this has happened to other people, I assumed that this was a unique problem

I&#039;ll repeat the steps I did as closely I can remember in case this would help someone:
1. Checked battery status: fully recharged
2. Removed battery, held power button for a few seconds, battery back in, start -&gt; failed again
3. Connected the recharger, start, FAIL
4. I had installed 2*1GB memory myself, I removed them and replaced them with the original 2*256MB ones -&gt; DOES NOT FAIL, at this point I was quite puzzled because although I&#039;ve seen bad memory before, I&#039;ve never seen memory &quot;break&quot; in use
5. I put the 2*1GB back in, rebooted, did not FAIL immediately, so I downloaded the OSX port of the mighty &quot;memtest&quot; utility and ran in single-user mode -&gt; no problems found
6. I tried loading both cpu cores for a while to see if that would make it fail -&gt; nope

I haven&#039;t seen the problem since Saturday. This sounds like a really weird problem to me. My best guesstimate about the problem is that the memory modules had a slightly bad electrical connection to the memory socket and replacing the modules fixed this. However, I am almost 100% certain that the memory modules were inserted properly (deep enough) so I&#039;m not entirely happy with this explanation. Another explanation could be that some part cooled down enough to work properly while I was playing around with the memory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, </p>
<p>I got my Macbook (the slowest one) in May. No problems until last weekend: I resumed the Macbook from sleep and after a few seconds the screen went black. It took me a while to figure out that the power had gone off completely. So I restarted the machine, logged in and same thing happened almost immediately. This was repeated about 4-5 times within ten minutes until I started investigating the problem. I was not aware that this has happened to other people, I assumed that this was a unique problem</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll repeat the steps I did as closely I can remember in case this would help someone:<br />
1. Checked battery status: fully recharged<br />
2. Removed battery, held power button for a few seconds, battery back in, start -&gt; failed again<br />
3. Connected the recharger, start, FAIL<br />
4. I had installed 2*1GB memory myself, I removed them and replaced them with the original 2*256MB ones -&gt; DOES NOT FAIL, at this point I was quite puzzled because although I&#8217;ve seen bad memory before, I&#8217;ve never seen memory &#8220;break&#8221; in use<br />
5. I put the 2*1GB back in, rebooted, did not FAIL immediately, so I downloaded the OSX port of the mighty &#8220;memtest&#8221; utility and ran in single-user mode -&gt; no problems found<br />
6. I tried loading both cpu cores for a while to see if that would make it fail -&gt; nope</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t seen the problem since Saturday. This sounds like a really weird problem to me. My best guesstimate about the problem is that the memory modules had a slightly bad electrical connection to the memory socket and replacing the modules fixed this. However, I am almost 100% certain that the memory modules were inserted properly (deep enough) so I&#8217;m not entirely happy with this explanation. Another explanation could be that some part cooled down enough to work properly while I was playing around with the memory.</p>
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